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this is about pakistan, as we said on the show a number of times. how do we deal with pakistan and at the same time, get out of afghanistan except in terms of special forces or drones to represent our interest and chase down terrorists? meanwhile, you have the greatest tender box in the world, to save a nuclear pakistan with more than 100, probably twice as many with nuclear warheads that can fall into the hands of terrorists. >> the bottom line is, how do we deal with it? >> it's always pakistan is a basket case, a nuclear basket case. stay in afghanistan. >> you don't. you don't. >> it's not going to work. that is washington's argument, mike barnicle. pakistan is stabilized. we have to keep having american troops killed in afghanistan. it doesn't add up. invading cambodia is the right move when you are going into vietnam. >> continuing argument and keep making it because less than 1% of american families and american people are serving in the military in afghanistan. >> there you go. >> back to the draft. >> untouched. >> we need a draft. >> we'll
this is about pakistan, as we said on the show a number of times. how do we deal with pakistan and at the same time, get out of afghanistan except in terms of special forces or drones to represent our interest and chase down terrorists? meanwhile, you have the greatest tender box in the world, to save a nuclear pakistan with more than 100, probably twice as many with nuclear warheads that can fall into the hands of terrorists. >> the bottom line is, how do we deal with it? >> it's...
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and governs pakistan. at this moment, it's not possible. >> it's a fear? >> it is a fear if it's the integrity is no more. >> how many nuclear bombs does pakistan have? >> i don't know. >> about? >> i don't know. >> 100. >> i don't know. >> you knew when you were the president. you wouldn't know that as president of pakistan? >> they don't give me that figure. why am i concerned whether it's 89 years. i am not concerned about the figures what difference does it make whether it's 54 or 94 or 150. you met with the governor of texas, rick perry. what was that about? >> nothing. he wanted to meet. maybe exchange views on what it would be. >> did you get the impression he is thinking of running for president? >> well, i think i did, yes. >> you think he will? >> you need to ask him, but i did get that impression. >> i agree and i think he will run, but i haven't met with him. you came away from the meeting thinking he is going to run? >> yes. >> let's talk about you a little bit. how do you feel? >> i hope i am
and governs pakistan. at this moment, it's not possible. >> it's a fear? >> it is a fear if it's the integrity is no more. >> how many nuclear bombs does pakistan have? >> i don't know. >> about? >> i don't know. >> 100. >> i don't know. >> you knew when you were the president. you wouldn't know that as president of pakistan? >> they don't give me that figure. why am i concerned whether it's 89 years. i am not concerned about the...
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two are on the border of afghanistan and pakistan, which leads to a lot of uncertainty on the pakistan side of the border. >> how do we bring india in? how do we bring pakistan in? again, the united states and dr. brzezinski last week when he was here talked about all of our rivals, not enemies, but rivals are sitting there smiling, watching the united states power get drained in afghanistan. they are just standing by. >> it's absolutely right. when you think about the costs, you know, we are talking $120 billion. that's combat operations alone. that's not aid. not aid going to other countries. it does not include training. we are talking billions of dollars spent on this operation that we are seeing marginal improvements. >> $120 billion on combat alone per year. i'm sorry, i'm going to say it again, while our infrastructure is crumbling, while we fall behind k-12 in the schools and having to fire teachers, i'm sorry you can't explain this to americans in town hall meetings from california to maine down to south florida. they don't understand. >> it goes back to a great line i heart.
two are on the border of afghanistan and pakistan, which leads to a lot of uncertainty on the pakistan side of the border. >> how do we bring india in? how do we bring pakistan in? again, the united states and dr. brzezinski last week when he was here talked about all of our rivals, not enemies, but rivals are sitting there smiling, watching the united states power get drained in afghanistan. they are just standing by. >> it's absolutely right. when you think about the costs, you...
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pakistan, not happy. now, not long after that, pakistan threw out all of the meamerican and british military trainers working with the armed forces, the u.s. this time. not happy. last week, mike mullen accused the government knowing all about the murder of a journalist critical of the government. pakistan denies that and isn't happy. fast forward -- the white house confirms $800 million, more than a third here, a third of the united states annual anti-terrorism aid package to pakistan will be stopped. this is how president obama's chief of staff describes the relationship. and i want you to listen very closely for one word, bill dailey uses more than once. >> complicated relationship and a very difficult complicated part of the world. there's still a lot of pain that the political system in pakistan is feeling by virtue of the raid that we did to get osama bin laden. something that the president felt strongly about. we have no regrets over. but the pakistani relationship is difficult but it must be made
pakistan, not happy. now, not long after that, pakistan threw out all of the meamerican and british military trainers working with the armed forces, the u.s. this time. not happy. last week, mike mullen accused the government knowing all about the murder of a journalist critical of the government. pakistan denies that and isn't happy. fast forward -- the white house confirms $800 million, more than a third here, a third of the united states annual anti-terrorism aid package to pakistan will be...
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pakistan withholding $800 million in promised military aid to pakistan. the zus not happy with what you're doing. what do you do about it? >> first old all, i don't think that's a correct characterization. it includes $300 million in reimbursements that have just been slowed down. we haven't received a reimbursement since december 2010. so basically, it's just something that's already slow, having been slowed down more. the fact is that -- >> are you saying this is not a big deal? $800 million of aids has been suspended. >> both sides are working together on a number of things and pakistan is not happy with the pace of delivery of assistance. americans are not happy with the pace of delivery of certain deliverables from pakistan. it happens sometimes. right now because pakistan is a fledgling democracy and everything that happens there hits the media and there's an american domestic political context in which everything becomes an issue because of the way people react to your administration. this has become -- >> the reaction in pakistan to the u.s. decis
pakistan withholding $800 million in promised military aid to pakistan. the zus not happy with what you're doing. what do you do about it? >> first old all, i don't think that's a correct characterization. it includes $300 million in reimbursements that have just been slowed down. we haven't received a reimbursement since december 2010. so basically, it's just something that's already slow, having been slowed down more. the fact is that -- >> are you saying this is not a big deal?...
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and pakistan as well. >> that's right. it's a very -- the word you keep hearing from officials, kyra, is complicated. we have a very complicated relationship with pakistan. and there is some element here. you know, that old saying about don't cut off your nose to spite your face, because we're giving them the money to go after the militants and insurgents that the united states has a vested interest in seeing captured or killed. but the relationship, obviously, is very difficult on both sides, because here at home, you have political pressure from congress. as part of the new defense spending bill, the secretary of defense and the secretary of state have to sort of write a report on exactly where this money is going before congress sort of loosens the purse strings and authorizes that money to go to pakistan. and on their side, their military was humiliated by that bin laden raid. there's a lot of pressure on the pakistan side to sort of stand firm and be tough with the u.s. at this point. >> interesting to see what develo
and pakistan as well. >> that's right. it's a very -- the word you keep hearing from officials, kyra, is complicated. we have a very complicated relationship with pakistan. and there is some element here. you know, that old saying about don't cut off your nose to spite your face, because we're giving them the money to go after the militants and insurgents that the united states has a vested interest in seeing captured or killed. but the relationship, obviously, is very difficult on both...
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the focus now for panetta is to keep attacking al qaeda in pakistan, yemen and somalia. >> now is the moment following what happened with bin laden to put maximum pressure on him. because i do believe that if we continue this effort that we can really cripple al qaeda, as a threat to this country. >> the u.s. believes al qaeda remains focused on high-profile attacks and would like nothing better than to bring down a u.s. aircraft. bin laden even wrote about assembling a team of operatives to attack the u.s. homeland. but he was killed by those u.s. navy s.e.a.l.s before any of his plots and plans could go any further. barbara starr, cnn, the pentagon. >>> all right. one game, folks, one game and you're world cup champions. that is the mission of the u.s. women's soccer team tomorrow. but they have to go through japan. even if it means they have to listen to a little bit of this. ♪ slow down, you move to fast ♪ you've got to make the morning last ♪ ♪ yes, kicking down the cobblestone ♪ ♪ looking for fun and feeling groovy ♪ >> you've got to love that. that is the u.s. soc
the focus now for panetta is to keep attacking al qaeda in pakistan, yemen and somalia. >> now is the moment following what happened with bin laden to put maximum pressure on him. because i do believe that if we continue this effort that we can really cripple al qaeda, as a threat to this country. >> the u.s. believes al qaeda remains focused on high-profile attacks and would like nothing better than to bring down a u.s. aircraft. bin laden even wrote about assembling a team of...
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talk about the drone lawyers against afghanistan, pakistan. you're reading a couple pieces in the "new york times." now it's spreading to all of these different countries and one that really jumped off the page for me, drone attacks in somalia. >> joining us, jeremy scahill, on the cia secret sites in somalia, jeremy, the secret training programs and secret prisons out of somalia is part of your reporting there. how big a threat are these terrorist group there's? >> we should say first of all president obama campaigned on a promise to go up against these bush era policies declaring war on the world, running secret sites, torturing prisoners. deeply involved in an underground dungeon officially run by the somali national security agency, but their salaries are paid by the cia directly. in fact, one somali agent described thousand hairli ed ho and paid by u.s. agents and the u.s. is interrogating prisoners, including those rendered by the kenyan government, snatched off the streets in nairobi based on u.s. intelligence and taken to this secret p
talk about the drone lawyers against afghanistan, pakistan. you're reading a couple pieces in the "new york times." now it's spreading to all of these different countries and one that really jumped off the page for me, drone attacks in somalia. >> joining us, jeremy scahill, on the cia secret sites in somalia, jeremy, the secret training programs and secret prisons out of somalia is part of your reporting there. how big a threat are these terrorist group there's? >> we...
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threatening to cut off nearly $1 billion in aid to pakistan. at first, the pakistani military sort of brushed it off. but today, the prime minister of pakistan expressed some real concern about that aid being cut. this visit could be one of the first steps to trying to find a way forward in which the two countries can still cooperate. >> the accusation is that elements of the isi, the pakistani intelligence service are helping insurgents, enemies of the united states in afghanistan and effectively helping to kill americans and other nato forces there. what are they saying about that? >> well, wolf, it doesn't make sense when you look ate from an american perspective. when i was in pakistan earlier this year, pakistani officials are very concerned about two things. they feel a threat from india. they're worried about the indians having influence in afghanistan. there are some elements within pakistan that use these insurgents in afghanistan as sort of a check on india's power there. they don't like this idea of this rival india having influence
threatening to cut off nearly $1 billion in aid to pakistan. at first, the pakistani military sort of brushed it off. but today, the prime minister of pakistan expressed some real concern about that aid being cut. this visit could be one of the first steps to trying to find a way forward in which the two countries can still cooperate. >> the accusation is that elements of the isi, the pakistani intelligence service are helping insurgents, enemies of the united states in afghanistan and...
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>> this is a graphic look at how ugly pakistan's war against the taliban can get. some of you may find this very disturbing. if you want to turn away, this is a good time to do so. let's walk you through the video, it was released by the taliban, posted online. it shows at least 14 men lined up, all of them wearing traditional pakistani garb. all of them appear to have their hands tied behind them. in front of them, you see three armed men. one is scolding the men, accusing them of being enemies of islams. saying these executions are about to take place in revenge for six children allegedly executed by pakistani security for forces. this is something military officials here vehemently deny ever happened. once theled skoing is done, that's when you see and hear the gun fire. let's watch and listen. [ gun firing ] >> during the gun fire, you see the men lined up topple to the ground. we're not going to show you what happens next. one or two of the gunmen walk to the men who were just shot and shoot them again. sometimes in the head in an apparent effort to make sure
>> this is a graphic look at how ugly pakistan's war against the taliban can get. some of you may find this very disturbing. if you want to turn away, this is a good time to do so. let's walk you through the video, it was released by the taliban, posted online. it shows at least 14 men lined up, all of them wearing traditional pakistani garb. all of them appear to have their hands tied behind them. in front of them, you see three armed men. one is scolding the men, accusing them of being...
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. >>> building anything in afghanistan and pakistan is a challenge. building orphanage is miraculous. this woman is giving hundreds of orphans a home and hope. you had a chance to interview the lady. how did she get out? >> it's a remarkable story. she is only 20 and she has accomplished more in her 28 years than most of us have. she went to extreme poverty and sought terrible things in refugee camps in iran and pakistan and at a young age, she wanted to make sure that children of afghanistan, future of this country will never have to endure what i went through. and i just want to read one thing she told me which is also on her website. she says for me is there a practical remedy for the ignorance oppression and hate rid and poverty so deeply embedded in society. raise a new generation of new boys and girls. >> a new generation. with this philosophy, these kids in poverty, they turn to extremism. they end up being the people that want to kill us and she knows that. that is why she wants to do this even more. >> it's interesting question. because i ask
. >>> building anything in afghanistan and pakistan is a challenge. building orphanage is miraculous. this woman is giving hundreds of orphans a home and hope. you had a chance to interview the lady. how did she get out? >> it's a remarkable story. she is only 20 and she has accomplished more in her 28 years than most of us have. she went to extreme poverty and sought terrible things in refugee camps in iran and pakistan and at a young age, she wanted to make sure that children...
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they have a safe haven right now in pakistan where they're still able to train operatives, including norwegian residents. and arrested last year in norway and suspected of being involved in a plot over there. so the response if it is al qaeda will have to increase, brooke. >> right. and then again, no one has thus far come forward claiming responsibility, but it does have the makings, as you mentioned, of that terrorist organization. thank you very much. >>> coming up next, we'll speak with someone on the ground in oslo on the exact same street where that explosion happened. he says his office felt like it contracted and then expanded. the windows you saw from the shattered glass blown all throughout the building. that is next. >>> plus this -- >> in 2010, americans chose a divided government. but they didn't choose a dysfunctional government. >> but right now, a dysfunctional government is exactly what we're getting. you know the deal, time's ticking on america's debt ceiling, and washington is no closer to a deal. will either side give in here? i'll speak with a republican lawmaker
they have a safe haven right now in pakistan where they're still able to train operatives, including norwegian residents. and arrested last year in norway and suspected of being involved in a plot over there. so the response if it is al qaeda will have to increase, brooke. >> right. and then again, no one has thus far come forward claiming responsibility, but it does have the makings, as you mentioned, of that terrorist organization. thank you very much. >>> coming up next, we'll...
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and pakistan growing even wider this morning. now that pakistan has arrested a local doctor accusing him of helping the cia set up a fake vaccination sting to track down osama bin laden. reza sayah live from islamabad this morning. how did the sting work and how did the doctor's arrest impact the already damaged relationship between the u.s. and pakistan? >> yeah. this thing straight out of a spy novel, kiran. a pakistani intelligence source tells us that this pakistani doctor is in custody. it's not clear if he's going to be charged with anything. we know he's suspected of being linked with a very intricate cia plot to confirm that, indeed, bin laden was hiding out in abbottbad. the source tells us this doctor had staged a fake vaccination campaign offering free vaccinations and polio drops to people and children in abbottbad. according to the british paper "the guardian" he hired two nurses who were going around house to house offering shots and the plan was to use the vaccine, the syringe, from the bin laden kids or extract bl
and pakistan growing even wider this morning. now that pakistan has arrested a local doctor accusing him of helping the cia set up a fake vaccination sting to track down osama bin laden. reza sayah live from islamabad this morning. how did the sting work and how did the doctor's arrest impact the already damaged relationship between the u.s. and pakistan? >> yeah. this thing straight out of a spy novel, kiran. a pakistani intelligence source tells us that this pakistani doctor is in...
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. >>> to pakistan fresh steps the u.s. took to track down osama bin laden. the cia reportedly ran a phony vaccination project in abbottabad, part of a plan to gather dna to figure out if the bin laden family was there and the pakistani doctor suspected of running the operation is being detained. r re reza sayah what do you know. >> reporter: it's not clear but they need to confirm he was living and hiding out in abbottabad. the intelligence source tells us that this doctor staged a fake vaccination campaign and he was advertising free shots and free vaccinations for the kids in abbottabad. the british paper "the guardian" is reported he hired two nurses who went around house to house and the plan was to get to the bin laden kids, extract blood and use syringes to match their dna with bin laden's sister's dna who died in boston last year. we spoke with residents of abbottabad and six of them tell us they went to house to house offering free vaccinations. we hadn't verified if they went from compound to compound. >> unfortunately we're having some problems tod
. >>> to pakistan fresh steps the u.s. took to track down osama bin laden. the cia reportedly ran a phony vaccination project in abbottabad, part of a plan to gather dna to figure out if the bin laden family was there and the pakistani doctor suspected of running the operation is being detained. r re reza sayah what do you know. >> reporter: it's not clear but they need to confirm he was living and hiding out in abbottabad. the intelligence source tells us that this doctor staged...
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and pakistan were not on the same page. >> we will following this. reza, thanks. >>> petree watched as a gra maid landed near him. he grabbed grabbed the grenade and threw it back. it severed his right hand. this afternoon he is awarded the medal of honor for his life-saving action. barbara starr is joining us live from the pentagon. barbara, tell us more about this pretty usa young man. >> reporter: he will receive the medal of honor later today from president obama in the white house what they call acting above and beyond the call of duty. it was a very daring daylight raid that they were on. usually, these types of compound raids take place under the cover of darkness. they went in during the day after insurgents. when they got in the compound, heavy fire end. the only place to find cover was a chicken coop and where they tried to fire back from. petree, a grenade tossed to his area in the chicken coop. he picked it up, already wounded and threw it back at the insurgents. it went off in his hand and he lost his right hand. but according to other t
and pakistan were not on the same page. >> we will following this. reza, thanks. >>> petree watched as a gra maid landed near him. he grabbed grabbed the grenade and threw it back. it severed his right hand. this afternoon he is awarded the medal of honor for his life-saving action. barbara starr is joining us live from the pentagon. barbara, tell us more about this pretty usa young man. >> reporter: he will receive the medal of honor later today from president obama in the...
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the source of all instability is pakistan. i think we need to encourage the afghan people to do a tribal awakening like we do with the sunni awakening in iraq. that's the pact. i was there in 2003. the afghan people don't want the taliban any more than they want -- so there's a way of doing this. we got to be concise. but the real issue is pakistan. we have to deal with them in a combination of ways. force is not the only way to do it. >> is general allen the right man for the job? >> i talked to several commanders to include the cent commander. the question becomes allen is a great leader. i think he understands the military context of what he's doing. he's going to rethink the coin strategy. the counter insurgency strategy. >> lieutenant schaefer, thank you so much. >> thank you. >> moving ahead, next on the rundown, who is hiring the top five companies offering jobs right now. on this day in history, the number one song, 1967, windy by the association. [ female announcer ] ever wish vegetables didn't taste so vegetably? wel
the source of all instability is pakistan. i think we need to encourage the afghan people to do a tribal awakening like we do with the sunni awakening in iraq. that's the pact. i was there in 2003. the afghan people don't want the taliban any more than they want -- so there's a way of doing this. we got to be concise. but the real issue is pakistan. we have to deal with them in a combination of ways. force is not the only way to do it. >> is general allen the right man for the job?...
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for information and we do speaking and we help christians that are being persecuted in countries like pakistan. and we help christians who are suffering all throughout the middle east. >> how do you do that? >> none of your business. >> none of your business? that's interesting. our investigation continues tomorrow night, right? what are we going to see tomorrow? >> yeah. tomorrow, how he makes a business out of his expertise, how these donations to his cause end up with a so-called foundation owned by his business partner. and also the bigger question, anderson, why are our taxpayers going to pay this guy? he can say whatever he is wants. but where are the people vetting these so-called terrorism experts that are suddenly making a lot of money in this country? >> that's interesting. drew, fascinating. we'll continue to follow up. we'll have that report part two tomorrow. thanks, drew, a lot >>> coming up, you may not have been following the war in libya recently. but tonight you are going to get as close to the come bats as anyone can. our ben wedeman and his crew caught in the crossfire toda
for information and we do speaking and we help christians that are being persecuted in countries like pakistan. and we help christians who are suffering all throughout the middle east. >> how do you do that? >> none of your business. >> none of your business? that's interesting. our investigation continues tomorrow night, right? what are we going to see tomorrow? >> yeah. tomorrow, how he makes a business out of his expertise, how these donations to his cause end up with...
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military aid to pakistan. u.s. slammed pakistan's reluctance to fight afghan militants along its border. >>> a government accountability report released today finds the system for detecting medicaid and medicare fraud are inadequate and underused. billion of dollars and claims are paid out each year, according to the report. >>> final spacewalk of the nasa era is conducted today. it won't be conducted by atlanta's astronauts. two space station residents will execute the walk to retrieve a broken pump. meantime, the landing plan for the "atlantis" has changed. it will now touchdown in the predawn hours of july 21st at the kennedy space center. >>> meantime, all eyes are going to be on sergeant scott moore at the marine corps ball this november when he shows up with movie star mila kunis on his arm. he asked her to the ball on youtube. take a look. >> hey, mila. sergeant moore. you can call me scott. i just want to take a moment out of my day to ask you to the marine corps ball in november in north carolina. yours tr
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polled people in egypt, turkey, the palestinian territories, jordan, lebanon, israel, indonesia and pakistan. interestingly enough, 75% of people in egypt said arabs not responsible for 9/11. >> should we cue up some bin laden tapes where he's admitting the entire thing or khali shaikh mohammed talking about how the plot was put together or the video confessions of those suicide -- of the suicide terrorists before they died? i mean, would that help? that's not even a tough question. >> it isn't a tough question. >> yet the disconnect continues to be there. we always hear that, it makes no sense obviously to us here. meanwhile, let's get to your headlines. >> we will indeed. defense lawyers plan to present an insanity defense today in the arkansas murder trial of abdul akim muhammad accused of killing one soldier and wounding another outside an army recruiting station in little rock. muhammad insists he's not insane and claims his actions were justified by the quran. >> a texas man who was kidnapped has been found dead in mexico. police say he was murdered after his family could not pay a $10
polled people in egypt, turkey, the palestinian territories, jordan, lebanon, israel, indonesia and pakistan. interestingly enough, 75% of people in egypt said arabs not responsible for 9/11. >> should we cue up some bin laden tapes where he's admitting the entire thing or khali shaikh mohammed talking about how the plot was put together or the video confessions of those suicide -- of the suicide terrorists before they died? i mean, would that help? that's not even a tough question....